Live discussion Feb 10, 2016 @ 6pm UTC

[mstenta]

Hi everyone! We've had some great conversation in these issue queues around the crops data schema. I was wondering if any of you would be interested in doing a Google Hangout to discuss it some more face-to-face?

I host a monthly farmOS development call via Google Hangouts, and I thought this would be a great topic for the next one.

I haven't set a schedule for the 2016 calls yet, but last year they were the first Wednesday of every month at 7pm EST. However, since many of you are in Europe perhaps we could shift that to better accommodate?

What do you think about Wednesday, February 3rd at 1pm EST, which is 6pm GMT (I think?). Or if that's too soon - Feb 10th?

[mstenta]

@simonv3 @andru @roryaronson @pmackay @Mageistral @tkeifer - would you be interested in joining? (sorry if I missed anyone - feel free to tag more!)

[Mageistral]

As there is some interested people, I was thinking the same, at least to see who we are :) or maybe you already know each other.
I'm completely unavailable the 3rd so the 10th is better. And if understand properly the time, that's ok, 7pm /France.

[roryaronson]

I can do the 10th!

[mstenta]

Great! I've also heard back from a few other interested folks and it sounds like they can do the 10th at 1pm EST / 6pm UTC as well.

I posted the 2016 farmOS Monthly Call schedule here, where you can also find the link: http://farmos.org/monthly-call

Looking forward to talking! :-)

[mstenta]

I'll close this ticket so it doesn't crowd the queue...

[simonv3]

How about we leave it open until it happens - that way people who might be interested will find it easier. How about changing the title to when and where?

[mstenta]

Sounds good!

[mstenta]

Just a reminder to anyone tagged in this thread: the call is scheduled for tomorrow at 1pm EST / 6pm UTC.

The link to join the Google Hangout is available here: http://farmos.org/monthly-call

Hope to see you there! :-)

[mstenta]

I started an agenda for the call in a Hackpad: https://farmos.hackpad.com/farmOS-Monthly-Call-ExlBTwu96ZX

I figure we can start with some introductions, then jump into the crops discussion with a review of some of the Github conversations. Then take it from there and hopefully figure out next steps.

Feel free to add anything in particular you'd like to talk about!

[mstenta]

@roryaronson @Mageistral Thanks for joining the call! Here's a quick summary for those who couldn't make it:

We started with introductions, and went through some of the user stories described in #9. Then we reviewed some of the discussions around schema definition, data format, centralized vs distributed considerations, separations of concern, etc.

We had some folks on the call who weren't familiar with the discussions, so it was helpful to bounce ideas off of fresh ears, so to speak. And just great to meet and talk face to face in general.

We didn't come to any firm conclusions or decisions on anything, nor was I hoping/expecting to. The general agreement was that we all need this, and there's good use-cases for others as well. And that maybe the best approach moving forward is to just start building things in our own respective domains and applications, and keep these common schema and format conversations going at the same time - so we can share ideas, experiences, and requirements as it develops.

In some ways, we are in a stage of "which came first: the chicken or the egg" - we need a common data definition to build applications on top of, and we need applications to define the common data definitions. It makes sense that they would evolve together. :-)

I was hoping to keep more detailed minutes during the call, but alas I failed at doing that. This was just from memory, so @Mageistral and @roryaronson if there's anything I missed feel free to chime in!

[andru]

Sorry I missed it folks. I've been heads down and lost track of it.

I'm prototyping rapidly with Hortomatic so my short term approach is to pull together a dataset that works for my immediate needs. In that sense I'm on the same page as the general consensus of the call. When I've got something going I'll publish it and share it here to feed into the discussion.